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No Keystone XL means cheaper Canadian crude- here's proof!

GasBuddy Blog -- An article by a Londer Finance newspaper spells out what I've been trying to let our GasBuddy family know- that I believe rejection of the Keystone pipeline will allow Canadian oil prices to remain at huge discounts to other global crude oils.

Now the proof is here in the pudding according to the LSE:

"Canadian heavy crude differentials began to slide two days ago, falling from the low $20s a barrel under benchmark West Texas Intermediate to as much as $32 a barrel under WTI on Friday."

See? The above paragraph is showing that the price of Canadian crude oil is falling- even faster than changes in other types of higher quality crude oil!

The same story goes on to say "Traders of Canadian crude had...

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Submitted Feb 03, 2012 By: PD

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TempleAlumni Rookie Author Allentown Posts:12 Points:31,890 Joined:Dec 2011	Message Posted: Feb 6, 2012 4:28:08 AM Ignore TempleAlumni Report Abuse THIS PIPELINE NEEDS TO BE RE-ROUTED FROM TEXAS TO TEXAS...YES I SAID FROM TEXAS TO TEXAS OR AN OF OUR 50 STATES...WE ARE ONE OF THE BIGGEST EXPORTERS OF OIL, YET, WE HAVE "LITTLE TO NONE IN OUR RESERVES"? AS EVERYTHING ELSE IN THIS WORLD IT ALL COMES DOWN TO MAKING $$$-AND FORGET GAS FOR A SECOND-WE STILL HAVE PEOPLE IN OUR OWN COUNTRY WHO ARE STARVING...SAD, SAD...SAD!!!
rjhenn Champion Author Des Moines Posts:18,249 Points:1,873,470 Joined:Aug 2005	Message Posted: Feb 5, 2012 9:09:05 PM Ignore rjhenn Report Abuse tomok - "These are US natural resources that belong to the citizens of this country and are to be used by those same citizens!" How is Canadian crude "US natural resources"?
KAR120CSII Champion Author Oregon Posts:1,950 Points:328,140 Joined:Apr 2010	Message Posted: Feb 5, 2012 2:38:06 PM Ignore KAR120CSII Report Abuse Good article.
tomok Champion Author Portland Posts:26,058 Points:1,983,460 Joined:Aug 2006	Message Posted: Feb 5, 2012 3:18:18 AM Ignore tomok Report Abuse No Keystone XL means cheaper Canadian crude? Maybe, Maybe Not! If Big oil and refineries would NOT export fuel and natural gas to other countries for additional profit, the price of fuel at the pump would be much lower. These are US natural resources that belong to the citizens of this country and are to be used by those same citizens! Barry will support natural gas and oil production to pay for his ‘spending gone wild’ addiction. Speculators, manipulators and the banks continue to unfairly and unjustly make the driving public pay higher prices at the pump. The price of fuel at the pump is too high! 12/22/2012!
N5EXY Champion Author Austin Posts:3,721 Points:1,150,985 Joined:Jul 2004	Message Posted: Feb 4, 2012 9:55:35 AM Ignore N5EXY Report Abuse 275 days until the election.
bigmoo63 All-Star Author Kalamazoo Posts:883 Points:56,540 Joined:Nov 2009	Message Posted: Feb 4, 2012 9:09:24 AM Ignore bigmoo63 Report Abuse Okay, both sides of the story. Probably not more than half truths in either. If its got anything to do with oil and the government, you can bet the best interests of the people are secondary. The corporations pulling the strings of the political puppets are getting the last word. And I dont thing anything will make the crude cheaper. Why should it be? They have a willing buyer across the globe. You scream about business. Here it is, and it goes against us. And then its wrong. Wake up people...just because we snap our fingers, people arent giving us our way anymore. Thats just a fact. This country has more enemies than allies. And we did it to ourselves.
rbrk02 Champion Author Rhode Island Posts:3,022 Points:455,180 Joined:Jan 2011	Message Posted: Feb 4, 2012 8:53:31 AM Ignore rbrk02 Report Abuse rx7racerca, your post from Feb 3, 2012 9:58:32 PM is absolutely spot on. Great comment. judgemobile, great comment also. Let's hope you are right! [Edited by: rbrk02 at 2/4/2012 8:54:37 AM EST]
jrschl Champion Author Louisville Posts:1,132 Points:319,730 Joined:Jun 2011	Message Posted: Feb 4, 2012 1:06:14 AM Ignore jrschl Report Abuse How about we switch to Natural Gas and forget about the oil trade. This talk and no action is getting old...quick.
kkimes All-Star Author Illinois Posts:847 Points:1,183,595 Joined:Sep 2005	Message Posted: Feb 4, 2012 12:52:14 AM Ignore kkimes Report Abuse Congratulations! Just keep saying NO until everyone understands it.
dpt Champion Author Michigan Posts:1,599 Points:1,894,040 Joined:Mar 2005	Message Posted: Feb 4, 2012 12:50:55 AM Ignore dpt Report Abuse Yeah. If somebody got a job for five years, they counted it as job-years and said it was five jobs.
rjhenn Champion Author Des Moines Posts:18,249 Points:1,873,470 Joined:Aug 2005	Message Posted: Feb 4, 2012 12:19:08 AM Ignore rjhenn Report Abuse judgemobile - "perhaps the 20,000 or more people who will now NOT get jobs because the pipeline is not being built--they (and their families and friends) will express their rage to O'Bummer at the polls in November." Except that most of those 20,000 jobs were never anything but hot air, intended to blow Congress into supporting higher gas prices for the US.
tedjm1 Champion Author New York Posts:4,070 Points:494,815 Joined:Dec 2006	Message Posted: Feb 4, 2012 12:15:14 AM Ignore tedjm1 Report Abuse Who are you supposed to believe? No one has been forward with their messages. They can 'lie' like champs and change results by skewing the data they have available.
jkpsr Champion Author New Jersey Posts:2,525 Points:758,890 Joined:Jun 2005	Message Posted: Feb 4, 2012 12:14:06 AM Ignore jkpsr Report Abuse Since it seems to only be in their interest, let them build one in their own country.
judgemobile Champion Author Ohio Posts:5,762 Points:2,085,330 Joined:Nov 2005	Message Posted: Feb 4, 2012 12:11:00 AM Ignore judgemobile Report Abuse perhaps the 20,000 or more people who will now NOT get jobs because the pipeline is not being built--they (and their families and friends) will express their rage to O'Bummer at the polls in November.
rawdog1313 Champion Author Lexington Posts:1,500 Points:1,281,535 Joined:May 2008	Message Posted: Feb 4, 2012 12:10:29 AM Ignore rawdog1313 Report Abuse The pipeline will not make prices lower here...Somebody has been watching and listening to way too much Faux News......
pse91 All-Star Author Calgary Posts:617 Points:282,240 Joined:May 2011	Message Posted: Feb 4, 2012 12:10:27 AM Ignore pse91 Report Abuse It seems like some one is on drugs. Cheap oil price in Canada. That has not translated at the pumps. The pumps in Canada seem to be all over the map.
Beboper Champion Author Virginia Posts:6,894 Points:1,801,740 Joined:Oct 2005	Message Posted: Feb 4, 2012 12:09:28 AM Ignore Beboper Report Abuse still taking but no action
Bigwaynef Champion Author South Carolina Posts:8,508 Points:1,719,785 Joined:Dec 2006	Message Posted: Feb 4, 2012 12:09:20 AM Ignore Bigwaynef Report Abuse Has some interests under the hat...
LostToo Champion Author Illinois Posts:3,619 Points:819,515 Joined:May 2009	Message Posted: Feb 4, 2012 12:08:59 AM Ignore LostToo Report Abuse WHAT!?!?!?! HAS PUDDING GOT TO DO WITH IT???????? mmmmmmmmmm home made chocolate pudding, yummmmmy. Banana pudding is great too.... with the vanilla wafers mmmmmmmmmmmm.
whatif81 Rookie Author San Antonio Posts:26 Points:29,575 Joined:Jan 2012	Message Posted: Feb 4, 2012 12:08:38 AM Ignore whatif81 Report Abuse I doubt if the pipeline goes through that it will bring gas prices down. Oil companies use just about any excuse to bring up gas prices. Like Iran's threat.
umitb Champion Author Indianapolis Posts:1,863 Points:493,210 Joined:Apr 2010	Message Posted: Feb 4, 2012 12:07:52 AM Ignore umitb Report Abuse ok
jrsva Champion Author Virginia Posts:7,774 Points:1,251,135 Joined:Jan 2006	Message Posted: Feb 4, 2012 12:06:58 AM Ignore jrsva Report Abuse “Nice article but since I don't live in Canada I'd prefer we do the pipeline so we can have lower prices here.” Hey Beaver, it would be good if you had actually read the article before commenting. The main point made is that building the pipeline would result in higher prices in the US.
Ahking Champion Author Orange County Posts:2,006 Points:329,095 Joined:May 2011	Message Posted: Feb 4, 2012 12:05:17 AM Ignore Ahking Report Abuse thanks for the info.
tampacrvdriver Champion Author Tampa Posts:1,721 Points:360,400 Joined:May 2011	Message Posted: Feb 4, 2012 12:01:49 AM Ignore tampacrvdriver Report Abuse I'm skeptical.
runningmp Champion Author Corpus Christi Posts:20,418 Points:2,386,580 Joined:Sep 2005	Message Posted: Feb 4, 2012 12:01:11 AM Ignore runningmp Report Abuse us4usa, your price only went up 10 cents....ours went up 15 cents and we have four refineries in our city.
DrCashFlow Champion Author Massachusetts Posts:5,286 Points:1,272,250 Joined:Jun 2008	Message Posted: Feb 3, 2012 11:59:46 PM Ignore DrCashFlow Report Abuse Maybe
Road-Runner Champion Author Denver Posts:6,405 Points:1,775,115 Joined:May 2004	Message Posted: Feb 3, 2012 11:57:56 PM Ignore Road-Runner Report Abuse No surprise. The real question is: Will it translate into cheaper prices at the pump for Canadian and U.S. consumers???
DustyHorse Champion Author Virginia Posts:4,495 Points:1,073,520 Joined:Oct 2008	Message Posted: Feb 3, 2012 11:56:26 PM Ignore DustyHorse Report Abuse Seems hard to believe.
vibdata Champion Author Massachusetts Posts:2,978 Points:628,735 Joined:Nov 2005	Message Posted: Feb 3, 2012 11:55:16 PM Ignore vibdata Report Abuse Fine. Keep the prices low. Keep the oil at home. The US would be well advised to do that as well.
Beaveronparade All-Star Author Hartford Posts:974 Points:293,550 Joined:Mar 2011	Message Posted: Feb 3, 2012 11:50:42 PM Ignore Beaveronparade Report Abuse Nice article but since I don't live in Canada I'd prefer we do the pipeline so we can have lower prices here. : )
SparkieMi Champion Author Kalamazoo Posts:1,463 Points:237,455 Joined:Sep 2011	Message Posted: Feb 3, 2012 11:49:23 PM Ignore SparkieMi Report Abuse Very good post Bonnie24TX, especially starting with the third sentence..
bif65 All-Star Author Virginia Posts:779 Points:137,025 Joined:Jan 2011	Message Posted: Feb 3, 2012 11:49:16 PM Ignore bif65 Report Abuse ok
mstearno Champion Author Dayton Posts:6,366 Points:1,388,490 Joined:Jan 2008	Message Posted: Feb 3, 2012 11:46:28 PM Ignore mstearno Report Abuse no it does not lower our prices
dennis58 All-Star Author Mississippi Posts:507 Points:237,655 Joined:May 2011	Message Posted: Feb 3, 2012 11:39:48 PM Ignore dennis58 Report Abuse does it lower our gas prices?
Martinman Champion Author Mississippi Posts:12,512 Points:1,739,070 Joined:Sep 2005	Message Posted: Feb 3, 2012 11:37:49 PM Ignore Martinman Report Abuse "... don't higher oil prices hurt the economy and lead to job losses? Chew on that one." . Which was the exact same conclusion that Cornell University reached in it's study on the Keystone XL pipeline. The study's authors even went on to state, that the 10- to 20- cent per gallon increase motorists would see in the central U.S., would in one-year, offset all of the job-gains for the entire project. As I have stated here in the past, Harper is trying to play the U.S. for Patsies.
ratones1 Champion Author Los Angeles Posts:1,604 Points:393,780 Joined:Mar 2011	Message Posted: Feb 3, 2012 11:36:11 PM Ignore ratones1 Report Abuse greed...
a14morfun Champion Author Ontario Posts:9,721 Points:1,728,185 Joined:Jul 2005	Message Posted: Feb 3, 2012 11:35:24 PM Ignore a14morfun Report Abuse Methinx that with a little more aggressive marketing and arranging the proper shipping via Kitimat or anywhere else on Canada's west coast, we Canadians shouldn't have to "give away" our oil at deep discount prices. As it is, most Canadians pay at least a dollar more per gallon at the pumps than our neighbours to the south. I'm all for helping out a neighbour. Don't get me wrong. But until you 'Murikens start paying real world prices, you're never going to learn the real meaning of the word "conserve."
txkrb All-Star Author Texas Posts:860 Points:314,355 Joined:May 2011	Message Posted: Feb 3, 2012 11:31:37 PM Ignore txkrb Report Abuse To nurdco - refineries in the area will have the same effect as building the pipeline, market for the oil If you can't get the oil to market what good does a low price do Increase supply and the price drops, without the pipeline the supply cannot get to refiners, therefore supply does not exist to the markets
tidalwave3 All-Star Author Tallahassee Posts:579 Points:1,134,550 Joined:Jun 2008	Message Posted: Feb 3, 2012 11:30:54 PM Ignore tidalwave3 Report Abuse yEA IT'S bUSH'S FAULT
lightninjack Sophomore Author Ohio Posts:173 Points:13,570 Joined:Dec 2011	Message Posted: Feb 3, 2012 11:28:16 PM Ignore lightninjack Report Abuse It's bush's fault..not sure how but it is.
nurdco Champion Author Colorado Springs Posts:7,226 Points:1,332,360 Joined:Apr 2008	Message Posted: Feb 3, 2012 11:26:10 PM Ignore nurdco Report Abuse Ya NEED a Midwest nothern refinery NOT a pipeline to TX..
jamieg2012 Veteran Author Sioux Falls Posts:286 Points:11,385 Joined:Jan 2012	Message Posted: Feb 3, 2012 11:19:31 PM Ignore jamieg2012 Report Abuse people want away from middle east oil but block getting oil from places much closer PICK ONE PEOPLE either accept giving money to the middle east where the terrorist camps is or stop blocking ways to get oil from other places much friendlier to us
Holly123 Champion Author Charlotte Posts:1,606 Points:440,505 Joined:Dec 2010	Message Posted: Feb 3, 2012 11:15:41 PM Ignore Holly123 Report Abuse GREED!
hcivic Champion Author Virginia Posts:2,104 Points:1,916,530 Joined:Aug 2005	Message Posted: Feb 3, 2012 11:14:19 PM Ignore hcivic Report Abuse we will have to wait and se
Bonnie24TX Rookie Author El Paso Posts:36 Points:4,665 Joined:Jan 2012	Message Posted: Feb 3, 2012 11:06:38 PM Ignore Bonnie24TX Report Abuse Why isn't there a new pipeline to the U.S.? Who's stopping it? God knows we need help. We are most always there for everyone else, where are America's friends when we are in trouble? I'm not too proud to ask for something that will benefit our country, but not to the extent that it will cause higher taxes to pay them off. If all the countries paid us back for all they owe us, perhaps we could get out of debt and help others more and ourselves.
clermont40miles Champion Author Cincinnati Posts:8,185 Points:1,412,725 Joined:Apr 2008	Message Posted: Feb 3, 2012 11:06:31 PM Ignore clermont40miles Report Abuse We shall see.
us4usa Champion Author Missouri Posts:4,424 Points:781,755 Joined:May 2008	Message Posted: Feb 3, 2012 11:06:00 PM Ignore us4usa Report Abuse Oil prices down $4, gas prices up 10 cents this week, GREED one of the seven sins???
Dodger007 Champion Author Illinois Posts:10,002 Points:2,083,460 Joined:Aug 2005	Message Posted: Feb 3, 2012 10:53:58 PM Ignore Dodger007 Report Abuse Wait till the start selling to China and see how high the price will go. It is dropping now because they have no way to transport it so it can be sold.
camel1 Champion Author Minnesota Posts:6,537 Points:1,917,740 Joined:Jul 2006	Message Posted: Feb 3, 2012 10:52:25 PM Ignore camel1 Report Abuse Wow what a difference
kelly1016 Champion Author Victoria Posts:1,106 Points:193,145 Joined:Oct 2011	Message Posted: Feb 3, 2012 10:51:20 PM Ignore kelly1016 Report Abuse It will be shipped via Kitimat. Harper has all but said it will be approved .